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		<title>Dave Seah, brilliant, and vastly more organized than you</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, so Dave is probably going to hurt me for using the picture at the bottom of this article, but he&#8217;s got funny ones of me too, while we sat Sunday at Coffee Society in San Jose (he was in town from the East Coast on a project, and chatted about our respective plights. David [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ds4design.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/davessig.jpg" title="Dave Seah signs"><img src="http://ds4design.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/davessig.jpg" alt="Dave Seah signs" /></a>Ok, so Dave is probably going to hurt me for using the picture at the bottom of this article, but he&#8217;s got funny ones of me too, while we sat Sunday at Coffee Society in San Jose (he was in town from the East Coast on a project, and chatted about our respective plights.</p>
<p><a href="http://davidseah.com/"><strong>David Seah</strong></a> (Dave to humans who have met him for more than 3 seconds) is the mastermind behind <strong><a href="http://davidseah.com/blog/the-printable-ceo-series/">The Printable CEO</a></strong> and other amazing time management/productivity/organization sheets and forms. I even got him to autograph(see the pic above) his own form (that reminds me, I should get <strong><a href="http://www.sharperimage.com/">Tristan </a></strong>to sign an Ionic Breeze!)</p>
<p>I make a point to communicate with people online who I find fascinating, and that generate truly amazing content,  Dave&#8217;s work is quite singular in this regard.  He, surprisingly to me, began to ask many questions of me and my process, as I was curious about him and how he went about things.  He has run the gamut from web design to game design, currently experience design.  He&#8217;s well rounded, well spoken, and will likely shove a camera lens in your face that is about twice as big as you expect. Wait till he posts about the cool little hack on said camera!</p>
<p>Dave and I are both in the position of trying to develop products, sell them, and actually make things that people want (and are useful).  We discussed a lot about fulfillment (personal, and places to ship your products from). We discussed virtual products and how to interact with the aspects of rights management therein (a scary proposition) (<em>more on this and the rest of these conversations in later posts, fear not</em>).</p>
<p>Of course we began with the hysterical introduction of getting out our various writing tools and pads, anyone watching would have likely been rolling their eyes. Out came two <a href="http://www.moleskine.com/index_eng.php"><em><strong>Moleskines</strong></em></a>, mine book style, his reporter style, we of course compared our built in hacks, his copiously readable and designed notes, and a filled pocket with tricks galore, mine with volume label, pen holder (on spine) and again the pocket filled</p>
<p>(personal moleskine pocket stash: stamps, $20 bill, post it tabs (mini), prepaid postcard, and a spare biz card).</p>
<p>Having someone to converse with on your projects, especially as removed as someone who has shared interests and goals, yet there is no overlap (his sales will never impact my sales) is such a great type of person to find.  I cannot recommend this sort of discussion enough.  Each of us is working towards developing products, and generating income while doing what we love.  It was great as we both have been researching many of the same things, and it was interesting to see where our knowledge overlapped, and where one of us had found much more information on a particular topic.</p>
<p>We also discussed Linkedin, as we have both been searching for a number of particular answers (that neither one of use knew exactly where to go with) and we noted that it seemed by far to be one of the best places for genuine business knowledge transfer.   We also noted that for &#8220;old school business info&#8221; <a href="http://www.score.org/index.html"><strong>SCORE </strong></a>(the SBA&#8217;s retired executive coaching wing) is a really useful place for knowledge on simple things like getting a business license, which ones we needed, and the like.</p>
<p><a href="http://davidseah.com/"><strong>Do go and read Dave&#8217;s articles please</strong></a>, you&#8217;ll be better for it!</p>
<p>He even did a post about our meeting,, cool!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so funny, Dave is so introspective, while I sat there and we talked <a href="http://davidseah.com/blog/comments/a-new-pen-for-a-new-notebook/"><strong>his pen </strong></a>flowed across the page. I always enjoy watching people who take copious and excellent notes, as it is a wholly different experience from my hideous chickenscratch.</p>
<p>Apparently I should go do things now, but there&#8217;s much more to write of Dave&#8217;s and my meeting in the near term (as well as enumerating my ongoing projects and how Dave&#8217;s advice has helped me.)</p>
<p>Have a great day!  Go make an online friend a real friend!</p>
<p><a href="http://ds4design.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/dave-seah-is-funny.jpg" title="Dave Seah in San Jose"><img src="http://ds4design.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/dave-seah-is-funny.jpg" alt="Dave Seah in San Jose" /></a></p>
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		<title>What tools do you use online (and off) on a daily basis to get stuff done.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one of those &#8220;Hey everybody, what are you using too&#8221; type posts, so please do comment! As for me,, I use a lot of different software, mostly free, and when I&#8217;ve gotta pay for it,, I do. (plus I&#8217;ve been paying my podcasting bill lately too, more on that later). Email, well, I&#8217;ve [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ds4design.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/wrench.jpg" title="its a wrench!"><img src="http://ds4design.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/wrench.jpg" alt="its a wrench!" align="right" /></a>This is one of those &#8220;Hey everybody, what are you using too&#8221; type posts, so please <strong>do comment!</strong></p>
<p>As for me,, I use a lot of different software, mostly free, and when I&#8217;ve gotta pay for it,, I do. (plus I&#8217;ve been paying my podcasting bill lately too, more on that later).</p>
<p>Email, well, I&#8217;ve got a lot, (<a href="http://www.gmail.com/"><strong>Gmail</strong></a>, <a href="http://www.yahoo.com"><strong>Yahoo</strong></a>, <a href="http://www.msn.com"><strong>Hotmail</strong></a>, and <a href="http://www.godaddy.cm"><strong>Godaddy</strong></a>)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/reader/view/"><strong>Google Reader</strong></a>, (seriously, my feeds list is full like crazy, but I get a ton of info in my eyeholes every day).</p>
<p><a href="http://del.icio.us/"><strong>Del.icio.us</strong></a>,  ooh I do tend to tag a lot!  Check out my<a href="http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed/http%3A%2F%2Fdel.icio.us%2Frss%2Ffreds4hb%2Fds4tool"><strong> helpful link RSS feed for DS4tool</strong></a> (its the main link set for DS4 design and a good place to start for business startup prototyping references.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/">Twitter</a></strong>,, (ok, so I stayed off Twitter for quite a while (I&#8217;m looking at you SXSW) but I finally caved, and, wow, it&#8217;s just fun).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.plaxo.com/"><strong>Plaxo</strong></a>, my Palm Pilot died, (my 5th pilot since 1996, I miss my pilot, I&#8217;m waiting till the Centro comes to Verizon, till then, my life is a tiny void, Plaxo has most of my data that I was able to extract,,, I&#8217;m never going to get back my recipes though,, I still weep for that category on my palm pilot,,, I weep).  Plaxo works great, and they keep improving it.  I wish they&#8217;d incorporate a neat little simple CRM package (it&#8217;s the perfect place and they do such a great job,, however,,,).</p>
<p><a href="http://crm.zoho.com/crm/login.sas"><strong>ZohoCRM</strong></a>,, I&#8217;ve got it, but I&#8217;m trying to get around to using it more.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.siphs.com/"><strong>Siphs.com</strong></a> a great way to email your friends things you find.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rememberthemilk.com"><strong>Remember the Milk</strong></a> (someday, I&#8217;ll get around to getting the pro model (especially when I get around to getting a smartphone/blackberry of some sort (ok, an iphone would be cool, but in all likelihood it&#8217;ll be a Palm Centro once they come out on Verizon)).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.plaxo.com"><strong>Plaxo</strong></a>, it does a lot, saves all my old Palm data and keeps it current.</p>
<p>As for social networks,, I&#8217;m in a lot of them (I only actively use a few). but I can always be found getting things done in terms of Linked in, Myspace, Facebook, Cork&#8217;d,mmm,, that&#8217;s all the ones I pay attention to.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.efax.com/"><strong>eFax</strong></a>, good free fax number, then if you want to send a fax,, eh,, it&#8217;s pretty cheap, and the darn thing works.</p>
<p><a href="http://camstudio.org/"><strong>CamStudio </strong></a>of course (don&#8217;t worry, soon there&#8217;ll be a cast of sorts!) Same goes for <a href="http://audacity.sourceforge.net/"><strong>Audacity</strong></a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.openoffice.org/"><strong>OpenOffice</strong></a>,, its lotsa fun, and more affordable than,, well,, if you were to buy some office software made by that operating system company it would cost much more than free.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a bunch more that I do use, but that&#8217;s a start!</p>
<p>So what are you using?  (yes, I want you to actually leave me a comment,, PLEASE!!!)</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some people have noted,, cars can be fun (hint,, I&#8217;m one of them). I love formula 1 (in a nearly inappropriate manner). Check out my buddies Brett and Corey over at Formulapod! This year I attended the Jeepers Jamboree on possibly the most famous off road trail in the US (go ahead argue about it),, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ds4design.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/jeeplensubarunians.jpg" title="jeeple and subarunians"><img src="http://ds4design.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/jeeplensubarunians.jpg" alt="jeeple and subarunians" align="right" /></a>Some people have noted,, cars can be fun (hint,, I&#8217;m one of them).</p>
<p>I love formula 1 (in a nearly inappropriate manner).  Check out my buddies <a href="http://www.formulapod.com/"><strong>Brett and Corey over at Formulapod!</strong></a></p>
<p>This year I attended the <a href="http://www.jeepersjamboree.com/"><strong>Jeepers Jamboree</strong></a> on possibly the most famous off road trail in the US (go ahead argue about it),, The Rubicon.  Heck, I even won a $500 gift certificate there too! (and I didn&#8217;t even own the Jeep I was riding in!) Thanks <a href="http://www.redneckconcepts.com/"><strong>Redneck Concepts</strong></a>!</p>
<p>I have friends that own Subarus as well.</p>
<p>These two cars are known for one thing, enjoyment of outdoor pursuits.  These are the vehicles that people who live, work, and play outside love to use.  Yet neither of these companies seem to have made much of an effort towards developing alternative fueled vehicles.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of two companies that would benefit in terms of sales more than them.  They have a dedicated outdoor constituent of people who would definitely be considered &#8220;green,&#8221; forward thinking, and environmentally concious.  Yet they don&#8217;t seem to have vehicles that help this (though they are tending to be more efficient, they&#8217;re not in the hybrid or full electric game yet).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just saying,, I&#8217;ll be in the market before too long, and I would love to get a high efficiency model from either comapny (especially after the jamboree,, jeep&#8217;n is a blast!).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my bit for today, go out and have some outdoor fun!</p>
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		<title>Not Invented Here Syndrome,, what&#8217;s the cure?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mine Mine Mine Mine Mine!!! This is the whine of many companies, and their innovation strategies. It&#8217;s interesting, some companies when approached are more than excited to take a look at new ideas from outside sources (as well as signing simple NDA&#8217;s (Non-Disclosure-Agreement) that detail that they won&#8217;t share the I.P. independently developed and produced [...]]]></description>
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<p>This is the whine of many companies, and their innovation strategies.  It&#8217;s interesting, some companies when approached are more than excited to take a look at new ideas from outside sources (as well as signing simple NDA&#8217;s (Non-Disclosure-Agreement) that detail that they won&#8217;t share the I.P. independently developed and <em><strong>produced with outside developers own time and money</strong></em>).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s surprising that so many places dismiss an outside idea.  Especially since many outer opportunities, while not fully able to fit with their company can, at least introduce new ideas, thoughts, and concepts to them. Granted, most that look at outer company&#8217;s ideas simply find an intellectual property work-around and knock them off to get in the same product category.</p>
<p><strong>Companies should realize that the level of monetary benefit alone exceeds the simple &#8220;cost of signing an NDA&#8221;</strong> (which, to be sure is the simplicity of writing their name, and faxing or emailing a document back).  At that point, they can receive the document, prototype, or presentation, and identify the next action (there you go GTDers).</p>
<p><strong>The real thing that companies need to remember is that if someone truly brings you a good idea,, you will NOT LOSE MONEY ON IT.</strong>  People are bringing you an idea (protected already by at the very least a provisional patent pending, to prove it is theirs).   If someone has brought you a beneficial product design, give it a fair shake. You&#8217;re only supporting a small group (those who have brought you their idea), while you&#8217;re, likely large company benefits every time from an innovative product.  With a new product in a new section of your product portfolio, you can always make more money on a idea that you manufacture in house.  While the designer you are licensing to may require money, and a percentage of your profits, the money you will be making will always be more than they are making and can make your efforts more than worth your own time.</p>
<p><strong>I would love some feedback on this, but I feel that I&#8217;ve got something here</strong>. As an independent developer, this is the only way for myself and others that do this sort of thing to succeed.  People like me aren&#8217;t looking to &#8220;take all your money&#8221;.  Our overhead is usually a computer, a small shop (think a few hand tools), our cost to live, the cost of patenting, and the time and effort to develop a product that seems to fit your company&#8217;s industry.  It&#8217;s often vastly cheaper than having an independent design house do the work (though I do support them entirely), but more often these are people that are seeking you out, and have a passion to help you and your company.  These are people that like what you&#8217;re doing and want to be helpful, just give em&#8217; a chance is all I&#8217;m saying.</p>
<p><strong>Sign that NDA.</strong></p>
<p><strong>See what they have to say.</strong></p>
<p><strong>At worst, make a friend, you never know when that idea will come up again, and be just what your company needs to get ahead!</strong></p>
<p>Just a little food for thought for the day.</p>
<p>Happy Monday!</p>
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